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Mad Scientist Mod

v2.5 Entrenchment Edition

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Support Email: madscientistmod@hotmail.com

New Technology Count: 94

New Plantary Ability Count: 30

 

MODS INCLUDED

1) Sins Plus v1.3 by Uzii (Modified)

2) Volumetric Explosions & Damage Effects ver. 1.12

3) Bailknights Graphic Mod v1.1

The mod is now available to modders to use in their own creations.  All that I ask is that proper credit is given.

Current changes:

New Opening Theme Song:  O' Fortuna:  a song that I believe gets the blood pumping without taking away any of the atmosphere of the game.

Retroactive Researching:  Reorganized the research benefits to give more sway to those with technological superiority against those of numerical superiority.  All technologies that require previous research in the same exact subject have been changed, such as a laser damage tech that requires a previous laser damage tech.  The game orignally gave the same bonus to both techs, usually 5%, and even though the second tech cost more to research, you still only squeezed out the same damage increase of the cheeper tech. For example

Tech 1: 5% damage increase

Tech 2: 5% damage increase

Tech 3: 5% damage increase

Tech 4: 5% damage increase

What I have changed is that I have made such researches retroactive in that the further you progress in that line the greater the bonus you receave per tech.  The formula I used is (current bonus + previous bonus=New current bonus)  So lets see that example again with the changes.

Tech 1: 5% damage increase

Tech 2: (5+5)10% damage increase

Tech 3: (5+10)15% damage increase

Tech 4: (5+15)20% damage increase.

I did this change for not only for weapons but all areas.  The techs in which this applys includes: Weapon Damage, Weapon Recharge Rates, Shields, Hulls, Antimatter, Armor, Trade, Resources, Planet Population, Culture, and maybe one or two I can't remember.  Note that this make certain aspects of the game you may have not concidered a threat much more powerful, such as enemy culture spread.

Fleet Tree Reorganized:  I have reorganized the Fleet Tree to accept additional technologies to be researched.  Note that any technologies I place in there will be able to be researched using both the military and civilian research stations.

Defense Techs Moved:  While doing the Retroactive Researching protion of the mod I fully realized that civilizations that progressed heavily in the non-combat research fields would basically stand little chance against the military minded civilizations as they would be easily destroyed.  In order to help prevent this I have moved the defense technologies from the combat tree to the fleet tree to allow all to research them.

New Techs Added To Military Tree: With the void now in the combat research tree I needed to come up with new technologies to fill it in, and with defenses now in the fleet tree but what else to put in there but more firepower.  All races now have added technologes that increase the rate of fire of all their weapons.  The bonuses here are also retroactive and if you research one weapon to its fullest, you will be pumping out an impressive 2x the rounds in the time span (100% increase)

Upgradeable Hanger Squads:  This change will allow you to upgrade your defense hanger fighters per squad.  It will be placed in the fleet tree along with the standard hanger defense tech that unlocks it so it is available for both research fields.  Both TEC and Vasari will be able to add a total of 18 fighters to their hangers through research (.5/.5==1.5/1.5==2.5/2.5) x2 squads and because the Advent already had a tech that did this I deleted it and the will be able to add a total of 24 fighters (1/1==2/2==3/3)

Required Weapon Platform Research:  Because the Hanger Defense is now available to both research trees, I am going to make the Defense Platforms (Gauss for TEC, Beam for Advent, and Missile for Vasari) a required research within the military tech tree.  Note that this will make it so one can no longer build defensive structures without the proper research.

Added Elements from the Sins Plus By Uzii (Modified):  I have added certain additional planets from the Sins Plus mod into this one.  The following Planets are now included within this mod:  Urban--Paradise--Industrial--Toxic--Relic--and Barren.  Gas Giants are also now colonizable.  Also added population cap research included in Sins Plus for both Gas Giants as well as Barren Planets and Astroids.

Starting Local Militias: The starting Militias will be changed and spawn based on the theme of the starting planet stated above.  TEC's on Tec Planets, Advent on theirs, and Vasari on theirs.

Planet Rebalancing: The following displays the method I will be using to rebalance the planets in the game.  Hopefully this will allow the planets to become unique without any of them becoming less important then the others.  Each planet has 20 points to spend among the 5 fields.

    20 Point System  
           
Point Cost Population Metal Crystal Civilian Tactical
Dry (0) 0 0 0 0 0
Very Low (1) 10/30 0/1 0/1 8/14 5/15
Low (2) 10/30/100 1/2 1/2 8/14/20 5/15/25
Med (4) 10/30/100/190 2/3 2/3 8/14/20/26 5/15/25/35
High (8) 10/30/100/190/300 3/4 3/4 12/18/24/30/36 10/20/30/40/50
Very High (16) 10/30/100/190/300/420 4/6 4/6 12/18/24/30/36/42 10/20/30/40/50/60
           
  Population Metal Crystal Civilian Tactical
Terran 8 2 2 4 4
Desert 4 2 2 8 4
Ice 4 0 8 4 4
Volcanic 2 8 0 2 8
Paradise 2 0 0 16 2
Urban 16 0 0 2 2
Forest 8 4 0 4 4
Old Naval Base 4 2 2 4 8
Toxic 1 0 16 1 2
Industral 2 1 1 8 8
Swamp 4 4 0 8 4
Barren 1 1 1 1 16
Relic 2 0 8 2 8
Savannah 4 4 4 4 4
Ocean 4 0 4 4 8
Gas Giant 1 8 8 1 2

Reorganized Research Techs:  With the introduction of the new Defense Research Tree, I will be reorganizing the techs to allow for a more eye appealing layout as well as redefining the trees that certain techs should be in.

 

 

Planet Abilities: Every Planet will have an ability available to all races to research along with an additional researchable ability for the race best suite for the planet type.  What this means is now instead of only being able to research the planest that your race best represents, you will be able to research abilities for every planet type, but you still recieve an additional researchable ability on your race favored planets.

White = Universial, Green = TEC,  Blue = Advent,  Orange = Vasari

Terran: Population Growth Rate (+33%,66%,100%)///Weapon Range (+50%,100%,150%)

Urban: fighters per squad for structures (+1,2,3)///Fighters per squad for Starbases (+1,2,3)

Paradise: Planet Upgrade Cost (-20%,40%,60%)///Culture Spread (+50%,100%,150%)

Old Naval Base: Weapon Cooldown (+33%,66%,100%)///Shield Restore (+50%,100%,150%)

Forest: Structure Build Rate (+33%,66%,100%)///Hull Restore Rate (+50%.100%,150%)

Desert: Chance to be hit (-10%,20%,30%)///Culture Spread (+50%,100%,150%)

Ice: Speed of enemy ships (-10,20%,30%)///Shield Restore Rate (+50%,100%,150%)

Ocean: Planet Bombing Damage Absorb (+20%,40%,60%)///Energy Weapon Cooldown (+50%,100%,150%)

Relic: Ability Cooldown (+33%,66%,100%)///Antimatter Cost on non-ultimates (-20%,40%,60%)

Savannah: Structure Build Rate (+33%,66%,100%)///Hull Restore Rate (+50%.100%,150%)

Volcanic: Damage for Structures (+33%,66%,100%)///Culture Spread (+50%,100%,150%)

Toxic: Damage for Mines (+33%,66%,100%)///Shield Restore Rate (50%,100%,150%)

Industral: Ship Build Time (-33%,66%,100%)///Hull Restore Rate (+50%.100%,150%)

Barren: Planet Bombing Damage Absorb (+20%,40%,60%)///Speed Increase for Ships and Starbase (50%,100%,150%)

Swamp: Structure Build Rate (+33%,66%,100%)///Weapon Range (+50%,100%,150%)

Five Strike Craft Per Race: 

Intercepter: When it comes to the dog fight there is no equal.  With unmatched speed and manuverability, Intercepters are by far the best strike craft to clear the way of fighters and provide valuable escort for bomber squadrons. (Real World Representation: Mig series Fighter)

Fighter: While the Intercepter is its greatest threat, the fighter is the greatest threat to bombers.  With the ability to severly disrupt any bomber offensive, they provide valuable protection for structures and ships.  (Real World Representation: F-series Fighter)

Light Bomber: Because it is classified as a light bomber, do not think that this craft is a pushover.  It is in fact the toughest and most heavily armored strike craft available, and it has to be, as its job is to take on anti-strike craft frigates and carriers. (Real World Representation: A-10 Warthog)

Medium Bomber: A heavy cruiser's nemisis.  The medium bomber can deliver ordinace that can turn even the heaviest vessels to clouds of debris.  Only moderately armored and relitively slow moving, these bombers can fall prey to enemy fighter formations if proper precautions are not taken.  (Real World Representation: B-52 Superfortress)

Heavy Bomber: Go big or go home some might say, and these ships definately represent that very idea.  While only somewhat effective against most vessels, these strike craft shine when brought up against massive targets like capital ships and structures.  (Real World Representaion: B2 Bomber)

Roles for Strike Craft Building Units:

Capital ships: can build all three bomber types, as well as fighters, which make them strong in many areas.  They can be powerful in assulting enemy planets and heavy vessels(medium and heavy bombers), can be strong against other fleets with large frigate numbers (light bombers) and can protect their own fleet against bomber raids from other capital ships (Fighters).  Their flaw is that fighters only provide a marginal amount of protection against other fighters as well an intercepters.  This is where the need for cruiser carriers come in.

Cruiser Carriers:  Unlike in vanilla sins, cruiser carriers are now more protectors of their own fleet then an assult force.  They can launch powerful attacks against enemy frigates and cruisers (light bomber), can protect against enemy bomber forces (fighter), but are also tasked in the protection of the capital ships bomber forces against the enemy providing needed strike craft to act as escorts(Intercepter).  Their flaw is that they are weak against structures as well as heavy vessels.  This is where the Capital Ship squadrons come in.

Hanger Defenses:  Like Cruiser Carriers, the Hanger Defense also provides the same protection toward the planet it surrounds.  Its light bombers can devistate enemy frigates and hult their attacks.  Its fighter squadrons can hult the attacks of enemy capital ship bombers against the orbiting structures, and its intercepter squadrons can be used to protect the light bombers against invading forces that are relying on fighter support.  Their flaw is they cannot provide a powerful punch against heavy vessels such as capital ships themselves.  This is where Star Bases come in.

Starbase:  Starbases provide the same protection that Hanger Defenses with one notiable difference between them.  The starbase can also be strong against the heaviest of vessels, such as capital ships and heavy cruisers, with its ability to build medium bombers.  This allows it to provide the final area of protection that hanger defenses lack in.

Error Free:  In making the mod error free, I was forced to make Gas Giants uncolonizable, as the research to make them colonizable was causing issues with the game engine and giving me the an error.  While many people did not have a problem with, it was causing crashes on some systems, and therefore was decided to remove it.

Planet Abilities now require Starbases:  Planet abilities now require starbases in order to access them.  Some might think this as restrictive, however, I feel it adds to the depth of the whole entrenchment experience.

New Changes for 2.5:

Dubbled Max Research Levels:Max levels of many of the research will be dubbled in order to further use of the mod into later stages of the game.  Along with the Increased Need for Trade described below, it will definately be of use into many more hours of play then usual.  Take note that both ship supply and capital ship max will also be effected by this, dubbling the amount of vessels you can have.

Increased Need for Trade and Foundries: There will be an increased need for trade and foundries within the game. No longer can you expect to run a powerful empire on just taxes and extractors alone and still drown yourself in spare credits and resources.  No longer will you merely laugh when your full entire fleet gets wiped because you can easily have another ready in mere moments.  No longer can you expect to complete all the research in a cupple of hours on a meager handful of world.

Reorganized Pirates: With the increased power given by the added technologies, pirates have become seriously dwarfed by the strength of the empires, but no longer.  Pirates vessels themselves will improve as the game moves on, and once again become a feared enemy in the galaxy, or a powerful tool if you have the credits.

 

 

 

 

 

 


Comments (Page 15)
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on Feb 17, 2009

Thanks for your thumbs up Danman, glad you find it agreeable to digest.  As for future growth, I suggest you back away from your computer screen before I do something that blows your mind.

on Feb 18, 2009

[quote who="Ordian" reply="6" id="2061069"]Astraia: Thanks for the report, as it confirms that the mod is stable in multiplayer as well as singleplayer.  Lets me know that if any problems come up that they are unique and probably not due to the mod itself.

Nice mod Ordain - like the new research tree. Unfortunately I get a minidump always in the same place. I have a save just before the minidump - if you're interrested I could send it where? I'm using XP with 4 Gb and a ATI RADEON X800XT Platinum Edition. All settings are at default but it makes no difference when I lower them.

on Feb 18, 2009

wolfcat9
Ordian
Astraia: Thanks for the report, as it confirms that the mod is stable in multiplayer as well as singleplayer.  Lets me know that if any problems come up that they are unique and probably not due to the mod itself.


Nice mod Ordain - like the new research tree. Unfortunately I get a minidump always in the same place. I have a save just before the minidump - if you're interrested I could send it where? I'm using XP with 4 Gb and a ATI RADEON X800XT Platinum Edition. All settings are at default but it makes no difference when I lower them.

Unfortunatly, it is the same for me but i'm using entrenchment. This happens at about the 5h mark on a custom map. Though i have different system specs. Also this only happens offline. Also sorry about the last post, but the forum refused to let me edit the post...

on Feb 18, 2009

Wolfcast, I have sent you a pm explaining where to send the file.  I will look into it and give you an answer as soon as I can. 

on Feb 18, 2009

there are still crashes related to entrenchment beta which have nothing to do with the mod.

i too was playing a medium sized map vs. 3 unfair AIs for 6 hours without a crash but then got a minidump while the enemy tried building a starbase in my gravitiy well and my fighters attacked it while it was beeing build.

this is a known error and will be fixed in the next beta.

 

the mod is just great, especially for larger maps.

it took me more than 3 hours to complete all research as vasari

on Feb 18, 2009

sirphoenix: Yeah, I didn't think my mod was at fault, but I would definately rather check something out then dismiss it and the error ending up being my fault.

wolfcat9: Unfortunally, your save game falls well within the bounds of the beta error posted by sirphoenix.  There is really nothing I can do about it, as it is a fault in the beta and not the mod. 

on Feb 19, 2009

Okay everyone, I just wanted to give you an update, as I have made substantal changes.  My orginal plan was to include planet abilities in both the fleet and defense trees, but that is being changed.  I have instead removed all the other techs from the fleet tree (shields, hull, armor, hangardefense, etc) as well as the defense platform tech from the combat tree and moved them into the defense tree instead.  I believe that this is a more appropate setup of the mod, as the techs I moved are in fact defensive mods for ships, and it opens up areas in the fleet tree for future expansion as well as leaving room in the Defense tree.  This will change the game dynamics that you may be used to playing this mod as those techs will no longer be available to civic research stations and only the military ones.

Here are some pictures I have taken to further explain what I am talking about

on Feb 19, 2009

sirphoenix
there are still crashes related to entrenchment beta which have nothing to do with the mod.

i too was playing a medium sized map vs. 3 unfair AIs for 6 hours without a crash but then got a minidump while the enemy tried building a starbase in my gravitiy well and my fighters attacked it while it was beeing build.

this is a known error and will be fixed in the next beta.

 

the mod is just great, especially for larger maps.

it took me more than 3 hours to complete all research as vasari

I had the same problem when the AI started to build a starbase in gravity well. The game crashed as soon as the AI ship arrived - no fighters were involved. However, the minidump I described had nothing to do with this. It dumped when a lonly AI frgate arrived - thats all. Thanks Ordain for checking the save.

 

on Feb 20, 2009

Okay guys, beta 3 and v1.14 are set for release and I will begin working on converting the mod when they become available.  Until then, if you wish to continue playing this mod I suggest that you do not upgrade to the new versions unless you back up your Sins folder and run the mod from there until I am able to get these changed over and up for the public.  Due to the fact that I will be upgrading both the entrenchment and non-entrenchment versions I am unable to give an accurate ETA on when they will be done, but you should expect them this weekend.

Ordian

on Feb 20, 2009

he im telling this mod is great

on Feb 21, 2009

it would be great to have a bailknights graphic mod really updated for entrenchment. i mean, new effects for starbases attacks

on Feb 21, 2009

Ordian
Okay guys, beta 3 and v1.14 are set for release and I will begin working on converting the mod when they become available.  Until then, if you wish to continue playing this mod I suggest that you do not upgrade to the new versions unless you back up your Sins folder and run the mod from there until I am able to get these changed over and up for the public.  Due to the fact that I will be upgrading both the entrenchment and non-entrenchment versions I am unable to give an accurate ETA on when they will be done, but you should expect them this weekend.

Ordian

 

Ordian

     I downloaded sose 1.14 and entrenchment beta 3  then installed your mod  1.4c with patch and have had no probs at all.

awolf

 

on Feb 21, 2009

awolfhk

Quoting Ordian, reply 19Okay guys, beta 3 and v1.14 are set for release and I will begin working on converting the mod when they become available.  Until then, if you wish to continue playing this mod I suggest that you do not upgrade to the new versions unless you back up your Sins folder and run the mod from there until I am able to get these changed over and up for the public.  Due to the fact that I will be upgrading both the entrenchment and non-entrenchment versions I am unable to give an accurate ETA on when they will be done, but you should expect them this weekend.

Ordian

 

Ordian

     I downloaded sose 1.14 and entrenchment beta 3  then installed your mod  1.4c with patch and have had no probs at all.

awolf

 

 

The only problem i had was with the stringfile not regestering...

on Feb 21, 2009

AlphaSite

Quoting awolfhk, reply 22
Quoting Ordian, reply 19Okay guys, beta 3 and v1.14 are set for release and I will begin working on converting the mod when they become available.  Until then, if you wish to continue playing this mod I suggest that you do not upgrade to the new versions unless you back up your Sins folder and run the mod from there until I am able to get these changed over and up for the public.  Due to the fact that I will be upgrading both the entrenchment and non-entrenchment versions I am unable to give an accurate ETA on when they will be done, but you should expect them this weekend.

Ordian

 

Ordian

     I downloaded sose 1.14 and entrenchment beta 3  then installed your mod  1.4c with patch and have had no probs at all.

awolf

 

 

The only problem i had was with the stringfile not regestering...

 

i don't think it's a good idea to use "old" 1.4c with new beta 3 without any sort of update or conversion... lot of things have changed and the "old" mod automatically re-apply things from beta 2.5, something like abilities that in beta 3 have been changed or other things.

 

i was asking myself if this mod "knows" original planet properties (i'm talking about things like "porous core" and something like it) 'cause today i was playing beta 3 and i've found properties i've never seen before...

on Feb 21, 2009

well Beta 3 has a lot of changes although for the graphic effect all you need to do is copy the partical folder over since they are not affected by updates. if your only looknig for the new effects.

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